Managing Violence Podcast with Joe Saunders
The internet‘s leading podcast on violence prevention and management. Joe Saunders is a leading expert in workplace violence and verbal de-escalation, as well as a lifelong martial artist. On this show, Joe interviews global thought leaders and legends of the self-protection, martial arts and threat assessment community and also provides his own take on how we can keep our families and communities safe. This show exists #fortheprotectors, aiming to inform and equip anyone who seeks to create safety for others. Managing Violence Podcast is brought to you by Australia’s leading integrated risk consultancy, Risk 2 Solution.
Episodes

Monday Apr 24, 2023
MVP109: ”High Conflict” with Amanda Ripley
Monday Apr 24, 2023
Monday Apr 24, 2023
Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for the Atlantic, Politico, the Washington Post and other outlets. Today she joins me to talk about her book, HIGH CONFLICT: Why We Get Trapped & How We Get Out
This is a fascinating look at the polarising conflicts of our times - whether it's Left vs Right, race vs race, state vs state, gang vs gang, activism vs establishment or any other conflict rooted in polarity, high conflict destroys relationships, communities and lives. If, like me, you're interested in escaping the "tar pits" of high conflict, you need to check out this interview and the book to go with it.
As a side note, this will be the last regular interview episode of the Managing Violence Podcast. It's been a great run. I will be closing out with one more reflective episode, but this is the final interview and I'm happy to end it on this note. Enjoy!

Monday Apr 10, 2023
Monday Apr 10, 2023
Melissa Muir is a seasoned HR professional who has found her way into becoming a highly requested speaker on the topics of workplace violence, security/HR interface, identifying behavioural red flags, safe and respectful terminations and more. She is an absolute joy as a human being and combines an infectious optimism with hard-won knowledge and grounding humility. There is a lot to take away from this episode and I hope you enjoy it.
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Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com
If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support
And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

Saturday Jan 28, 2023
MVP107: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Self-Protection with Mark Mireles
Saturday Jan 28, 2023
Saturday Jan 28, 2023
The Book of Five Rings is a classic text on strategy and combat written by legendary samurai, Miyamoto Musashi nearly 400 years ago. Today I am joined by Mark Mireles to talk about how the wisdom contained in this book is still relevant for self protection today.
Mark is a 2 time recipient of the LAPD Medal of Valor, a threat assessment and personal protection practitioner, and a high ranking martial artist in several styles. He combines incredible personal experience in frontline self-protection with classical training and a deep appreciation for written works on life, death and combat.
Please enjoy this conversation, Ancient Wisdom for Modern Self-Protection with Mark Mireles.
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Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com
If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support
And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

Thursday Dec 22, 2022
MVP106: Mary Stevens - Soft Skills in Violence Prevention & Management
Thursday Dec 22, 2022
Thursday Dec 22, 2022
Happy holidays!
I am joined once again by Mary Stevens, an accomplished martial arts instructor and also lead instructor at Violence Prevention & Management UK. Mary is a lifelong learner and incredible teacher, so I took the opportunity to pick her brain about her last 12 months of study which includes seminars with the likes of Richard Dimitri, Pamela Armitage, Dr Tammy Yard McCracken, Rory Miller and me! To compare notes on how each of these world-leading instructors taught their "soft skills" material made for a great conversation.
We also touch on Mary's important work with FairFight, bringing self-protection skills to disadvantaged girls in India.
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Make sure you check out our full catalogue of episodes at www.violencepod.com
If you'd like to support the show, you'll find lots of opportunities at www.violencepod.com/support
And if you'd like to talk about myself or my team helping out your organisation, business or club, go to www.violencepod.com/training

Sunday Aug 28, 2022
MVP105: How to Stop Mass Killings with Mike Roche
Sunday Aug 28, 2022
Sunday Aug 28, 2022
In this episode I am joined by 40-year law enforcement officer and 26-year Secret Service veteran, Mike Roche. Mike is the author of Mass Killers: How you can identify workplace, school, or public killers before they strike
In this interview we talk about the psychology of mass murderers and what Mike has learned from 20 years of studying offenders and proven prevention methodologies.
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American fans! Joe is speaking at the Global Security Exchange (GSX) Conference in Atlanta, GA on September 12 and will be in Atlanta all week. If you're in the area, make sure you say hello. You can find details about Joe's conference presentation here: A Holistic Approach to Managing Customer-Initiated Violence - Global Security Exchange 2022 (mapyourshow.com)
For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence

Monday May 09, 2022
MVP104: Dr Mary Beth Janke - From Secret Service to Forensic Psychologist
Monday May 09, 2022
Monday May 09, 2022
Dr. Mary Beth Janke has over 30 years of psychology, security, and investigative experience and is one of the most respected females in the Executive Protection industry. Her career has been extremely impressive moving through time with the Secret Service as a Special Agent, military forces, and even Private Military Contract work. She’s the only woman ever to protect a foreign president outside of the US. She has operated in theaters such as Peru and Haiti. She has also operated as a VIP Protection Instructor for the US State Department-sponsored Anti-terrorism Assistance Program, and under the auspices of the US Embassy as the US Security Advisor to the Minister of Defense and the Vice President of Colombia.She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and a Masters in Forensic Psychology. She has spent the past 20 years practicing psychology as a therapist and serving as an Adjunct Professor in the Psychology Department at the George Washington University where she teaches Abnormal Psychology and the Psychology of Crime and Violence. She also regularly facilitates mental health training, stalking awareness discussions, and is as a mentor for women world-wide. She has written a captivating memoir about her story called 'The Protector: A Woman’s Journey from the Secret Service to Protecting VIPs in the World’s Most Dangerous Places'.

Tuesday Mar 15, 2022
MVP103: Understanding Stalkers with Dr Lorraine Sheridan
Tuesday Mar 15, 2022
Tuesday Mar 15, 2022
Dr Lorraine Sheridan is a forensic psychologist and one of the world's leading experts in stalking. She has written 5 books and over 80 journal articles on stalking, domestic violence and various aspects of criminal justice. She is also formerly the President of the Asia-Pacific Association of Threat Assessment Professionals, and current works as a consulting expert in a variety of threat assessment and risk management roles.
In this episode we take a dive into the mind of stalkers and how we can prevent and manage this risk, both in our personal lives and in the lives of those we love.
This episode, as always, is brought to you by R2S Violence Prevention. Learn more at risk2solution.com
For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence
More information on my upcoming UK tour: www.violencepod.com/uktour
Book tickets: www.selfdefenceglobal.online

Monday Feb 28, 2022
MVP102: The Safest Family on the Block with Jason Brick
Monday Feb 28, 2022
Monday Feb 28, 2022
"Making the decision to have a child...is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body."
Keeping our kids safe (and ourselves sane) is one of our most important duties as parents...but the best advice for doing that is scattered across dozens of disciplines. Karate teachers, police, sociologists, and alarm companies all have their own opinions, and some of them even contradict each other.
Jason Brick is the host of the Safest Family on the Block where he interviews leading experts in everything from special warfare, to first aid, to child psychology, to consumer safety, bringing you the information you need to run a safe, secure, and happy household.
For more information about Jason's upcoming book, or to participate in the Kickstarter, go here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brickcommajason/there-i-waswhen-nothing-happened
For bonus content from this episode and many others, check out www.patreon.com/managingviolence
More information on my upcoming UK tour: www.violencepod.com/uktour
Book tickets: www.selfdefenceglobal.online

Monday Feb 07, 2022
MVP101: Kerry ”Kato” Murakami on Law Enforcement Defensive Tactics
Monday Feb 07, 2022
Monday Feb 07, 2022
Kerry “Kato” Murakami, the founder of Rectitude Training, LLC, is devoted to training law enforcement and the civilian defender. Kerry is a retired law enforcement officer from the State of Illinois and has spent all twenty eight years in the patrol division. He initially became a defensive tactics instructor and field training officer in 1995, a firearms instructor in 2003 and finally a scenario based instructor in 2014.
As a martial artist, Kerry received his black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu from Professor Mark Vives of New Breed Training Center in 2019. As co-lead of his department’s scenario based training program and lead instructor of his department’s combatives club Kerry is able to use his skills to create, update, and implement training programs on the range and in the mat room. He has also consulted with outside law enforcement agencies on creating and updating training programs, including their agency's combatives/jiu-jitsu clubs.
In early 2021 Rectitude Training, LLC became a preferred provider to Intergovernmental Risk Management Agency (IRMA), one of the largest risk pools in the Chicagoland area. The goal is to increase frequency and consistency of Defensive Tactics/Combatives training while reducing Officer’s and suspect's injuries.
More information on my upcoming UK tour: Managing Violence 2022 UK Tour - Managing Violence Podcast
Book tickets: Self Defence Global
Join the conversation in the Managing Violence Tribe: Managing Violence Tribe | Facebook
Support the show on Patreon: www.patreon.com/managingviolence

Monday Jan 24, 2022
MVP100: The Future of the Self Protection Industry
Monday Jan 24, 2022
Monday Jan 24, 2022
I am using this milestone episode of the Managing Violence Podcast to plant a flag.
It is time we tear down this makeshift industry we have continued to patch, fix and repair over the past 70 or so years. Like a loved family home that has been renovated and added to in ad hoc fashion as it has been outgrown, sometimes the best option is to take the lessons and rebuild for the future. It's time for us to create something that is truly fit for purpose.
In this podcast I talk about what I think is the future of our industry. A move towards violence prevention and management, the incorporation of best-practice risk management principles and formalising professional education for instructors.
Whether you agree or disagree, please feel free to share your comments wherever you find this episode or email me at joe@joesaunders.com.au
More information on my upcoming UK tour: Managing Violence 2022 UK Tour - Managing Violence Podcast
Book tickets: Self Defence Global
Join the conversation in the Managing Violence Tribe: Managing Violence Tribe | Facebook
Support the show on Patreon: www.patreon.com/managingviolence

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